Each horror is intimate: you are there with the kindergarten teacher trying to make a hideout of a dozen small cushions; you watch her knowing, it will never work. It does not work. You watch the hundreds of young people at the concert start to flee; you look at their shoes and think, oh my god let them have worn shoes they can run in. You watch the hundreds running, looking almost like a stampede, the dust obscuring them, if not enough. “Is anyone alive?” the Israeli security force asks, walking past four, then ten, then dozens of bloodied young bodies lying. “Anyone please?”
I would assume that anyone, having seen this footage, or even heard about it, who response in this way, has a dark hole inside of them where humanity used to live
We can look back now, and ask people “and how did YOU respond on the day after Kristalnacht?” The above is a record of your response. People should know this about you
Ever been in a study group? that socially awkward moment when it’s clear that someone hasn’t done the reading, but tries to cover, and pipes up anyway?
Using a psychotic right wing incident as a rule instead of an exception is a projection on your part. If you can't bring yourself to deal and cope with atrocities, that's an indicator of your own level of mental health and dissociation. Good luck
You must think very little of Palestinians you racist. You most think they are savages. And you excuse the Saba every because apparently you have no expectations for them.
You are an antiSemitic piece of shit. Rot in hell.
I am a first amendment purist and will defend your right to express your position. But this is my house and we don’t speak to others this way. Fair warning
I respect you but it’s a disgusting comment. Particularly after reading about what you were brave enuf to watch. Sometimes people deserve comments like this because of what they write.
Thank you Nancy. I have not watched a single video. I can't. Your writing makes me shake. And you ARE a wonderful writer. One of the best. And a mensch.
Thank you for bearing witness Nancy. I don’t think I would be able to watch this footage. I grew up on images of the Holocaust- shown on repeat every Sunday at Hebrew school - I can still see those horrors clearly, decades later. I pray that people will read and believe your testimony, and that it will matter. 🙏💔
Thank you Nanacy for bearing witness. For being brave enough to see this horrific evidence.
We in Israel need you to show the western world that what happened in October 7 is .222222a pure masscare and a barbaric act of hatred towards innocent civilians, babies, children, older adults who simply wanted to live in peace and many of them honestly believed that we can have peace with our neighbors. Unfortunately we were mistaken. Israelis are resilient and united we shall overcome but we are grieving and are shocked facing the attrocity of our enemy. We are very paralyzed with worry for the safety and sanity of 240 babies, children and older adults who were kidnapped and are kept somewhere in Gaza without any cooperation even with the red cross to provide information and medical help. We are astounded to see how the academic institutions in the U.S.A refrain from condemming the massacre and the rally of the pro palestians whom we be3lieve have no idea that Israel withdrew from Gaza already many years ago.
Just know that the “academic institutions” in no way reflect what many of us in USA feel. Most colleges have been completely corrupted & should lose all public & private funding/donations. I feel deep sorrow about this & thank you for sharing it.
Thank you for bearing witness Nancy, I've watched the videos on Ben Shapiro's show and I know as i read this, I must. It tells me, it is urgent, necessary and our duty to be horrifcally changed as the lives of those victims were, and their famlies were. Our duty is to understand that pain and in some way help them process it. So Thank you
I read this 20 minutes after I learned that my brother-in-law (who is a Unitarian and a "Democratic Socialist") fully denies what happened. He's become just another "anti-zionist" useful idiot.
I have nothing left in my heart to extend to him. I'm not sure there's any point in trying to argue.
Many times over the last month I've felt like the only Jew in Portland - even though there are allegedly 50,000 of us. My Jewish friends are all terrified of losing their social circles, their jobs, book deals, etc. if they speak up too much.
Thank you for watching something so horrific. I read your column with tears streaming down my cheeks. I am horrified and sickened by what is happening on the streets and college campuses of this country that I love. Where did all of these people so filled with hate come from, who raised them and what have they been taught?
Nancy, congratulations on writing incisively enough to get a paying troll. Wow. To the person making snide remarks about genocide and ethnic cleansing, what's the context of your remarks? Your idiom sounds American, but I could be wrong. Why do you disagree enough to subscribe and troll? Make an argument, get out of the shadows.
My god ... this is one of the most powerful accounts I have read ... and convinces me ... I do not want to see this ... how can this be? What in the world is going on???
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“For those who do not believe it, this will not convince them,” says Shefler of the IDF...
(I wrote this yesterday in comment to a Free Press post and have been mulling it over)
Right now I’m listening, with salt shaker handy, to a book by Reza Aslan about the historical Jesus. [Glenn Loury just interviewed him about Iran on The Glenn Show Substack.]
Aslan points out that our counterparts in the first century don’t hear “Joseph, Mary, and Jesus went to Egypt” and take that literally. The logic goes something like: the prophesy says the Messiah will have gone to Egypt, Jesus is the Messiah, so of course he went to Egypt.
We hear someone went to Egypt and treat the statement as literal fact, at least if we can see a stamped visa upon request. But I fear that’s changing. Show someone the stamped visa and if the “fact” goes against their narrative, they’ll assume the stamp was forged. The narrative is paramount, with no pretence of objectivity
Update: I post this and then paraphrase its content to my partner. He nods and says, “Jean Baudrillard, hyperreal.” (That’s one reason I love my guy)
There are two echo chambers, both based on ancient mythic and tribal narratives, trying to kill each other, same as 5,000 years ago. Everything else is a moral panic.
Still having a hard time believing that pro-Palestine people can read accounts like this and shrug.
they need to be sat down and forced to watch what took place. words can ownly do so much
Actually, no it won’t. Raping children is not a normal response to “ethnic cleansing and apartheid”. At least not by humans.
b0t
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace?
Oy
Lotta anti semitic posts on your timeline. One may conclude you have a problem with Jews.
I would assume that anyone, having seen this footage, or even heard about it, who response in this way, has a dark hole inside of them where humanity used to live
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace?
Did you disappear, bot?
Who killed Rabin?
Lots of mindless zionist propaganda in your comment. One may conclude that you can't make a coherent point without lying and smearing.
Sauce
We can look back now, and ask people “and how did YOU respond on the day after Kristalnacht?” The above is a record of your response. People should know this about you
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace?
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of just to be part of the conversation. It's ok not to know things and either learn or be quiet.
Ever been in a study group? that socially awkward moment when it’s clear that someone hasn’t done the reading, but tries to cover, and pipes up anyway?
WHO KILLED RABIN, B0T?????
Stop smearing mental feces from you b0t whole on the walls of the comments section, it doesn’t pass the sniff test, troll.
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace? b0t
Using a psychotic right wing incident as a rule instead of an exception is a projection on your part. If you can't bring yourself to deal and cope with atrocities, that's an indicator of your own level of mental health and dissociation. Good luck
You must think very little of Palestinians you racist. You most think they are savages. And you excuse the Saba every because apparently you have no expectations for them.
You are an antiSemitic piece of shit. Rot in hell.
I am a first amendment purist and will defend your right to express your position. But this is my house and we don’t speak to others this way. Fair warning
I respect you but it’s a disgusting comment. Particularly after reading about what you were brave enuf to watch. Sometimes people deserve comments like this because of what they write.
I got a little mixed here with whom was accusing whom of what. Apologies if I came off harshly. Carry on
I got a little mixed here with whom was accusing whom of what. Apologies if I came off harshly. Carry on
WHO KILLED RABIN?????
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace? b0t
Thank you Nancy. I have not watched a single video. I can't. Your writing makes me shake. And you ARE a wonderful writer. One of the best. And a mensch.
Thank you for bearing witness Nancy. I don’t think I would be able to watch this footage. I grew up on images of the Holocaust- shown on repeat every Sunday at Hebrew school - I can still see those horrors clearly, decades later. I pray that people will read and believe your testimony, and that it will matter. 🙏💔
Thank you Nanacy for bearing witness. For being brave enough to see this horrific evidence.
We in Israel need you to show the western world that what happened in October 7 is .222222a pure masscare and a barbaric act of hatred towards innocent civilians, babies, children, older adults who simply wanted to live in peace and many of them honestly believed that we can have peace with our neighbors. Unfortunately we were mistaken. Israelis are resilient and united we shall overcome but we are grieving and are shocked facing the attrocity of our enemy. We are very paralyzed with worry for the safety and sanity of 240 babies, children and older adults who were kidnapped and are kept somewhere in Gaza without any cooperation even with the red cross to provide information and medical help. We are astounded to see how the academic institutions in the U.S.A refrain from condemming the massacre and the rally of the pro palestians whom we be3lieve have no idea that Israel withdrew from Gaza already many years ago.
Just know that the “academic institutions” in no way reflect what many of us in USA feel. Most colleges have been completely corrupted & should lose all public & private funding/donations. I feel deep sorrow about this & thank you for sharing it.
... It is inconceivable & evil.
God help us ❤️
Thank you for bearing witness Nancy, I've watched the videos on Ben Shapiro's show and I know as i read this, I must. It tells me, it is urgent, necessary and our duty to be horrifcally changed as the lives of those victims were, and their famlies were. Our duty is to understand that pain and in some way help them process it. So Thank you
My God.
Thank you for your unparalleled reporting, for bearing witness to the terror and the horror. You are a blessing to us all my friend.
Thank you for bearing witness Nancy.
I read this 20 minutes after I learned that my brother-in-law (who is a Unitarian and a "Democratic Socialist") fully denies what happened. He's become just another "anti-zionist" useful idiot.
I have nothing left in my heart to extend to him. I'm not sure there's any point in trying to argue.
Many times over the last month I've felt like the only Jew in Portland - even though there are allegedly 50,000 of us. My Jewish friends are all terrified of losing their social circles, their jobs, book deals, etc. if they speak up too much.
Thank you for always being so damn loud.
Oh Max. Courage. There are so many of us with you and with Israel. As for being loud, I think I should copyright the hashtag #nevershuttingup
Oy. That’s hard. Speak up.
Who killed Rabin?
Thank you for watching something so horrific. I read your column with tears streaming down my cheeks. I am horrified and sickened by what is happening on the streets and college campuses of this country that I love. Where did all of these people so filled with hate come from, who raised them and what have they been taught?
They’re just ignorant followers who are gullible and want to belong to “The resistance”...IMHO.
Nancy, congratulations on writing incisively enough to get a paying troll. Wow. To the person making snide remarks about genocide and ethnic cleansing, what's the context of your remarks? Your idiom sounds American, but I could be wrong. Why do you disagree enough to subscribe and troll? Make an argument, get out of the shadows.
My god ... this is one of the most powerful accounts I have read ... and convinces me ... I do not want to see this ... how can this be? What in the world is going on???
OMG ... I couldn't even read all of this ... thank you, Nancy
Thank you for bearing witness to this and writing about it
Thank you. Be well. I know you can never forget. We must never forget.
Thank you. I will not watch any of that; I so appreciate that you and others have.
“For those who do not believe it, this will not convince them,” says Shefler of the IDF...
(I wrote this yesterday in comment to a Free Press post and have been mulling it over)
Right now I’m listening, with salt shaker handy, to a book by Reza Aslan about the historical Jesus. [Glenn Loury just interviewed him about Iran on The Glenn Show Substack.]
Aslan points out that our counterparts in the first century don’t hear “Joseph, Mary, and Jesus went to Egypt” and take that literally. The logic goes something like: the prophesy says the Messiah will have gone to Egypt, Jesus is the Messiah, so of course he went to Egypt.
We hear someone went to Egypt and treat the statement as literal fact, at least if we can see a stamped visa upon request. But I fear that’s changing. Show someone the stamped visa and if the “fact” goes against their narrative, they’ll assume the stamp was forged. The narrative is paramount, with no pretence of objectivity
Update: I post this and then paraphrase its content to my partner. He nods and says, “Jean Baudrillard, hyperreal.” (That’s one reason I love my guy)
There are two echo chambers, both based on ancient mythic and tribal narratives, trying to kill each other, same as 5,000 years ago. Everything else is a moral panic.
Here we see the moral blindness of “both sides”-ism
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace? b0t
If Israel were “trying to kill” Palestinians, they would. Even now, they clearly aren’t “trying to kill”. You are blinded by dogma.
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace? b0t
Kind of like trump telling us there were good people on both sides. Moral relativism is not called for here actually. It’s offensive.
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT, TROLL.
Do you mean because the intended meaning of the words “Good people on both sides” has been misconstrued!?
I’m really just referring to how moral relativism is offensive in this situation.
You just projected your shadow/psychosis. Who killed Rabin for trying to make peace?
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/340-the-bright-line-between-good-and-evil/id733163012?i=1000634032064
You wouldn’t know the difference between good and evil if it bit you in the fetid, greasy AIPAC b0t whole that you crawled out of, troll.