Pie people, here’s a portion of the latest episode of Smoke ‘Em If You Got ‘Em, where
co-host Katie Herzog talks about how she quit drinking. We talk about her cancelation for, imo, writing one of the tenderest features (albeit about detransitioners so, no safe ground), her upcoming book, Drink Your Way Sober, the tragic story of Jonathan Joss (who I wrote about in “Men Alone”), and end with a long appreciation for the journalist William Langewiesche, who I’ve written about and gone drinking with and who died this week at age 70.
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